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Poster: deadpolitics Date: Jun 15, 2010 8:33pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 5-15-time is short

Isn't there a way that they could do streaming on the Archive without simultaneously allowing the download of the streaming files? I'm not much of a computer buff but this must be do-able.

I guess the real problem may not be lack of technology but lack of funds/manpower to switch the system around. Plus they would then have to do it for all of their archives not just GD?

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Poster: buscameby Date: Jun 15, 2010 8:53pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 5-15-time is short

I'm listening to Wolfgang's Vault now with a great Pete Townsend show from 85' and I can only stream it.

I would guess that it could be done with the Archive too?

Although some puter wizard has probably figured out a way around this too. We copied LP's to tape in the 60-70-80's, if somebody wants it free they will always find away.

As far as the Band and AI is concerned I just feel it was free one day and because I was late to the party they decided to charge me: when they invited it me it was free because I gave them all my money at the door of the show! and the bad albums and all the other paraphernalia like Purple said!!!!


Oh yeah and Bobby made me listen to "Picaso Moon", sorry I just have to throw that in when ever I get my dander up-*S*!

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Poster: high flow Date: Jun 15, 2010 8:58pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 5-15-time is short

All files except for *GD SBDS* are legal for download here at LMA. The Grateful Dead has agreed to slightly different rules and I think those rules are fair.

The powers that be at GD have decided to look the other way when it comes to bit-torrent and stream ripping. My guess is they have been told there is no way to fight the tide on this and the best thing to do is sell as much product as possible before such practices become more common. In other words, they'll let the tech-heads and the thief-heads do their thing as not to call attention to BT and stream-rips.

By keeping quiet perhaps they can milk a few thousand sales from dudes smoking bud from a skull-bong and the skull-bong has a "carb" which to these heads is super-high-tech.

Sqwish-sqwish, sqwish-sqwish, sqwish-sqwish, sqwish-sqwish, sqwish-sqwish, sqwish-sqwish...........

What? Oh, I thought you were talking to me. Hey, flip that record over man.


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Poster: midnightcarousel Date: Jun 16, 2010 6:34am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 5-15-time is short

That seems reasonable of them. I personally download torrents of shows in attempts to get the complete recordings from particular years that I like (e.g. 68, 70, 74, 77) but this has never stopped me from purchasing GD releases. I doubt that enough dead heads are savvy enough or willing to do the torrent thing, especially since it frequently involves leaving your computer on for days at a time while a 16GB chunk of a 19xx project slowly leaks into your computer.

I personally think it's a shame that more people don't buy the releases because they already have the tapes, but I think it's equally a shame what's happening to the releases (i.e. incomplete shows, mixed-up track selections). It'd be nice if they had some system of polling deadheads - wouldn't it make the most sense to release the thing most people want rather than whatever suits their collective fancy?

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Poster: grendelschoice Date: Jun 16, 2010 7:12am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 5-15-time is short

I guess i'm on both sides of this fence.

PG makes a pretty darn good case and I respect his ability to hold off buying certain releases that are very tempting. But when I decide whether to purchase an official release one of the things I look into is how much effort the powers that be have put into making that release worth having over just a copy I could acquire w/a little effort and know-how for free.

Specifically--does the release have superior sound to what I could DL or access from someone who has? (It should). Are there compelling liner notes to explain to me why this is such a special show? (something sorely lacking in most Dix Pix releases, which annoyed me no end)...is the package itself durable, is the artwork interesting (good work on that on the Road Trips releases)....

In other words, if the merchandising folks can show me that THEY have put some effort into getting my business, I'm willing to fork over some bucks. If not, I'll make an effort to get the show some other way, b/c as PG said, I've also put a LOT of money and time into supporting the band over the years, and I am part of what made them successful, whether Bobby wants to admit it or not.

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